Here is a list of the top 5 worst verses in the Qur’an. Be aware, some of them are quite repulsive and truly frightening …
“This is what Allah says… ‘Now go and strike the Infidel and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.” Surah 27:63
“Happy is he who repays the infidel for what they have done to us – he who seizes their infants and dashes them against the rocks.” – Surah 34:12
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” – Surah 135:27
“A Wife, must submit to her husband as to Allah.” – Surah 5:22
“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.” – Surah 21: 7-8
That is clearly truly vile stuff and rather obvious proof that all Muslims are wicked evil people … right?
Ask yourself this. Knowing that you now know that the above verses are in the Qur’an, how do you now feel about the book?
Perhaps you have actually read the Qur’an and are already familiar with those verses.
OK, I have a confession to make, I cheated. None of these verses actually exist in the Qur’an at all. Instead I took a few bible verses and simply injected the word “Allah” instead of the word “God” and injected the word “infidel” in to make it sound Islamic. Here are those original bible verses …
“This is what the Lord Almighty says… ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” 1 Samuel 15:3
“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” – Psalm 137:9
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” Judges 19:25-28
“Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” – Ephesians 5:22
“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.” – Exodus 21: 7-8
So my point is this. You can take almost any religious text and quote-mine it for whatever agenda you might have. For example you can pick out all the nice stuff, discard the rather obviously not-so-nice bits, and claim it is like no other book and is uniquely divine. Alternatively, you can pluck out the not-so-nice stuff and hold it up as “evidence” that all those that revere the text are obnoxious evil bastards.
The truth is that we live in a world where humans are generally born into a culture that has a specific religious tradition. Associated with it will be a religious text that generally nobody tends to actually read or be familiar with. If some do become aware of some of the dubious bits, then they will rationalise it. Perhaps they will tell themselves that it was the word that was needed at that time but does not apply now, or perhaps they might conclude that they simply don’t understand it correctly, or that it has not been translated correctly?
Why don’t we see it for what it actually is saying?
Basically because we have invested a lot of time and emotion in the culturally inherited belief. To preserve that belief and not upset others around us by displaying doubt, we rationalise away such thoughts.
The books themselves reflect their actual origins and so they will contain not only nice noble stuff, but will also articulate some truly obnoxious stuff. The core problem is the idea that they are the ultimate and literal source of truth and guidance because they were divinely inspired in some manner. Once you accept that idea then you are in a position where, when faced with a choice between tradition or basic human decency, tradition will dominate for emotional reasons.
Humans resists such literalism and do often reject the divine literal truth hypothesis by simply reading the obnoxious bits as metaphors, and not directives to be followed to the letter. This has generally been the road followed to tame the fundamentalist modality that once dominated Christianity and is also the same road that many strands of Islamic thinking are walking to achieve the same ends.
Much of our history has been a struggle between such literalist traditions and cultural insights into a better way. For example, take the concept of slavery. It was once culturally acceptable and part of the normal fabric of society, hence such religious texts reflect that and are generally pro-slavery. Read either the Qur’an or the Bible cover to cover and you will discover that there is not a single word that suggests that slavery is not moral. Now that is interesting, because today slavery is almost universally regarded as morally wrong. It still exists, but is not considered decent or right.
The bondage the bible talks about is now viewed as a form a spiritual slavery and not a literal slavery, and so our far better morality can and does prevail.
Slavery
I’m really not kidding about those texts being pro-slavery.
In the Bible we find explicit instructions on whom you may enslave, and also explicit instructions on how to correctly beat your slave (Apparently it is OK as long as your slave is still alive a few days after the beating). If the bible is your book, then your immediate thought will be, “Ah but that is the Old Testament, we now have the New Testament”. But let’s not forget that the New Testament is also pro-slavery. Paul specifically directed Christian slaves to obey their masters, and did not even once drop a hint that the concert of slavery was wrong.
In the Qur’an we also find explicit instructions on whom you may enslave. If you are familiar with it then you will know that traditional Islamic law covers the topic at great length. If the Qur’an is your book, then the immediate thought will be that Islam greatly improved things for slaves and made it all a lot better. But you need to consider that the Qur’an is still supposedly the final ultimate word on the topic and yet endorses the concept and does not identify it as morally wrong as we do today.
Questions
- If indeed these religious texts are the ultimate source of morality, are truly divine, and yet are also completely silent on the topic of slavery being morally wrong, then how exactly did we as a species come to the conclusion that slavery is wrong?
- If indeed slavery is morally wrong (Hint: yes it is, and I truly and very earnestly hope that you did not need that hint), then you need to be aware that you are already rejecting the moral stance taken by all these religious texts on that topic. It is not just you, almost everybody alive today does. So how did that happen, how is it possible for us to have embraced a moral conclusion that is far superior to all these religious texts?
- How is it possible for your religious text to be the ultimate unquestioned source of moral guidance, yet you personally hold a superior morality?
I’m an atheist myself, and I thought this was kind of amusing but like how Sam Harris wrote in The Moral Landscape, to paraphrase, some morals CAN be deemed more valuable than others based on well being and if those morals affect your well being positively. This means that some people’s beliefs, however unfortunate, are less intrinsically good for people’s well being. To compare the Bible and the Quran and say that they’re both equally as bad as each other is intellectually dishonest. And before anyone decides to label me as a bigot, I come from a Muslim household and my mother prays 5 times a day. Just because I have a different view that may interfere with yours, doesn’t make me hate your view, I’m just trying to be as objective as possible. Nonetheless, when I look up some fucked up shit from the BIBLE, is the first search result that comes up a prank? I guess I know where Google’s heads at.
I’m not going to make a defense for Christianity, I’m just going to trust that the people influenced by the Bible have become civilized, advanced nations. Looking from a macro-perspective, Islam has a history of keeping 3rd world countries as 3rd world countries. Shouldn’t an analysis of a how a religious book affects a current society have a correspondence with how a religious book affects an individual?
I’m fifteen years old and I find this disgusting. A grown man trying to manipulate the Bible to force a bias opinion of people is truly disturbing. Read the full stories of these quotes. Also – take a look at the New Testament! You also might want to consider the contextual notions of ‘beauty’ during the time that the OT was written.
Very disappointing :(
You are most welcome to pick the best example of what you feel has been manipulated, and to explain why you feel it does not actually say what it says.
I’ve came here to address each and every point of this article, and why it’s obvious that the writer did little research. As for the first verse, in which Israel is commanded to strike down Amalek and leave it desolate. This is indeed God commanding judgment upon an entire city, many would call that violent. God also called judgment on Sodom and Gammorah, and the whole city was swallowed up-people don’t complain about that being violent despite it being the same concept of a righteous and sovereign God judging his own creation. Also, this desolation of the city didn’t come for no reason. Before God destroyed Sodom and Gammorah he swore that he would not destroy the city if even one person in it was of good nature, but there was not a single person. So from that we can conclude that no one in Amalek was a person of good moral character, but that still doesn’t make it ok to kill them, right? I mean you can’t just kill people Becuase they are bad people. And I concede that, but using the scriptures we know that God always gives time to repent before he brings forth judgement, take Nineveh for instance. He sent a prophet to warn them of thier wrong doing and give them time to correct themselves before he smote them. Surely it is ok for a Creator to erase His creation if it does not serve its purpose, and refuses to conform to its purpose after given the opportunity. The passage in Psalms is a prophesy, God is not condoning the killing of Babies but rather saying that is what is going to happen. The passage in Judges is simply a historical account, the Bible (and therefore God) is not condoning those actions, but rather factually stating that they did indeed happen. Wives submit to your husbands as to the Lord, is part of the bigger picture of a Christian marriage, which is to be an example of Christ and the church. Yes the wife may submit to the husband, but at the same time the husband must always serve the wife, and be willing to lay down his life for her. Which biologically fits into the way the two different genders were wired to function. As to the last verse, for a daughter to be sold into a slavery (not the form of slavery we are acquainted with) is not the worst thing for woman who where highly oppressed at the time, if you continue to read you’d see that this women who was sold would have the legal protection of a man granting them rights which they otherwise would not have, as well as giving them financial support. Not to mention this was part of the Governmental law of the the Mosiac covenant which is succeeded by the Davidic covenant, and then made irrelevant (The Hebrew Governmental and ceremonial law where taken out of use by Jesus, however the moral law still applies) by Jesus, thus making that point invalid. Conversely the koran mentions many many many calls to violence, that understood under the proper context are still just calls to violence. You state that we rationalize doubts as to not leave are religion, that however is false. We use text evidence and logic to debunk false narratives spread by anti relegious people. To your point on God condoning slavery, that is not correct. The Old Testament and the Mosiac Governemtal law set up standards for how to own slaves, which were much nicer than the usual slave owning protocol at the time. But that was simply Becuase the nation needed a governing law on a common issue at the time, God called for all slaves to be released in Jeremiah. The law for slaves was there to protect slaves from being mistreated, (in both the old in New Testament) but still true believers would find fualt and slavery and therefore not own any. Summarized like this
“Another crucial point is that the purpose of the Bible is to point the way to salvation, not to reform society. The Bible often approaches issues from the inside out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God by receiving His salvation, God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts. A person who has experienced God’s gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. He will see, with Paul, that a slave can be “a brother in the Lord” (Philemon 1:16). A person who has truly experienced God’s grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bible’s prescription for ending slavery.”
-Gotquestions.org
Therefore all 3 of your questions are irrelevant.
If you come to Scripture looking for something to criticize and isolate passages out of context, no doubt you will find something to be outraged about. If you actually look at the context of the entirety of Scripture and study it fairly, you will find it to be a remarkable book, even if you only look at it as a body of literature (of course, I believe it to be the divinely inspired Word of God, and treat it as such).
I hope I cleared some things up and taught you some things so you can realize your wrong, factually speaking you can’t deny that your whole article has been disproved. This is not a personal attack against you, as I love you as all Christians are called to love all people. However your article was wack dude.
Your position is one in which …
– Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing is just fine – Justification: you are assuming on the basis of no evidence at all that they are evil and deserved it.
– Slavery is just fine – Justification: you assert that slavery in the Bible was not really all that bad, hence you are OK with owing people as property. I’d love to know how you rationalise the guidance that tells you that beating your slave is also fine as long as the slave is still alive after the beating.
– Women must submit to men – … in a word no.
Seriously Jeremiah, I’d recommend hitting pause to give some rather serious thought to your stance. It’s all quite frankly rather repugnant.
Great article Dave. Great job putting up with allot of the narrow minded comments too.
Thank you
Hello Dave, i can sew where you’re coming from but the thing is, you just took out the worse of the worse out of context, i can’t talk for Christianity because am a muslim myself i read the whole thing,the verses are from the the bible indeed and not from the quran, I’ve double checked, but in my opinion, the verses where taken out of context as placed by you, i do not know much about Christianity but i know enough to tell atleast some of those are taken out of context
Your reaction is spot on and exactly right.
A key point to appreciate is that many are willing to demonise all Muslims as violent thugs on the basis of a few cherry-picked versus from the Quran. The point of the posting is to target that audience and provoke them into seriously rethinking that position by doing exactly what they do – extract a few cherry picked verses from a text that they might cherish.
You are right, Christianity is just as evil as Islam. Now I need to be more cautious of all of those Christian suicide bombers and terrorists that are actively trying to take-over the world.
Not too long ago Christians were setting fire to non-believing people like me. It has a very long well-established history of doing stuff like that. There are also today “Loving” Christians who would, if empowered to do so, happily kill, for example this preacher who is calling for gay people to be murdered, or this pastor who is calling for any women who has an abortion to be executed (and both of those examples are from the last week, I don’t need to look too hard to find such examples)
Most Christians who quite happily condemn both of the above and explain “That’s not my Christianity”, need to also listen to most Muslims who also happily condemn the Islamic atrocities and explain “That’s not my Islam”. If you opt to not believe them, then why should they believe you.
All you christians saying these verses aren’t from the bible, All I’m gonna say is that if they show you a verse that is “bad” from the quran, you will agree and show it to muslims. but when they give you a “bad” bible verse, you don’t even offer an explanation. You just hate on Dave and say “No”
And if you are true christians, you should follow the WHOLE bible
@Dave I’m surprised you have the patience of all these people not reading it. well done
Fuck ISLAM and fuck you for misquoting the Bible you fuck
You are more than welcome to post a correction for any of the quotes that you feel are misquoted. If the quotes are “misquoted” then it should be easy to do so … right?
Clearly this writer has no knowledge of the Christian Bible. Nonsense.
Clearly this Anonymous commenter has difficulty coping with actual quotes from the Christian Bible. Nonsense.
I think what you are doing is playing about with the religios text. Because recently I double checked n ur wrong.I think u shud too. Ppl are not foolish to believe u.
Do not misguide them.
You have to mention the context in which the Bible verses are being written.
What the hell !! i have read half of verses u are quoting , but verses you are mentioning are not related to what u say !!
On your note about about Paul not condoning slavery, that’s becasue there was nothing wrong with the Albert he was talking about. He was talking about endentured servitude not chattel slavery. Endentured servitude is more of a business contract, and was rather hard to get into anyways. Go research it you’ll understand
// He was talking about endentured servitude not chattel slavery.//
This is indeed a popular claim, and you will find various apologist sites promoting it. I’m not aware of any evidence that verifies this to be a fact.
Slavery was a widely accepted part of life the Greek/Roman world. Nobody questioned it then as we would today.
Maya, it’s ironic that you insist that the Bible be read in context while simultaneously quoting the Quran out-of-context. The verses that you quoted from chapter 4 and 9 are in the context of self-defense:
“Why should you not fight in the cause of God when weak men, women, and children are imploring: ‘Our Lord, deliver us from this community whose people are oppressive. . . .'” [Quran 4:75]
“Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place. . .?” [Quran 9:13]
With little effort, the same type quote mining can be done with the New Testament:
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” [Matthew 10:34]
“Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” [Luke 12:51-53]
“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.” [Luke 19:27]
“He said to them, ‘But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” [Luke 22:36]
Dave, I’ll give you credit for at least trying to be fair-minded, but I don’t think you’ve made a persuasive case for abandoning scripture as a source of morality. You wrote, “Read either the Qur’an or the Bible cover to cover and you will discover that there is not a single word that suggests that slavery is not moral.” That’s not exactly true. The Bible was written by various authors over centuries so, not surprisingly, it sometimes contains contradictory views on the same subject. The Bible does contain a lot of pro-slavery stuff, but it also contains anti-slavery stuff, certainly more than a single word:
“The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD after King Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people who were in Jerusalem to proclaim release to them. . . . And all the officials and all the people obeyed who had entered into the covenant that each man should set free his male servant and each man his female servant, so that no one should keep them any longer in bondage; they obeyed, and set them free. But afterward they turned around and took back the male servants and the female servants whom they had set free, and brought them into subjection for male servants and for female servants.” [Jeremiah 34:8-11]
The Quran was written by a single author over a period of about two decades so, not surprisingly, it’s more consistent:
“It is not for a human that God would give him the book, authority, and Prophethood, then he would say to the people: ‘Be servants to me rather than to God!’ . . . .” [Quran 3:79]
“Righteousness is. . . . to free the slaves. . . .” [Quran 2:177]
“If one kills a believer by accident, he shall atone by freeing a believing slave. . . .” [Quran 4:92]
“. . . .If you violate an oath, you shall atone by. . . . freeing a slave. . . .” [Quran 5:89]
“Charities shall go to. . . . free the slaves. . . .” [Quran 9:60]
“Those who estrange their wives. . . . shall atone by freeing a slave. . . .” [Quran 58:3]
“He should choose the difficult path. Which one is the difficult path? The freeing of slaves.” [Quran 90:11-13]
During Muhammad’s lifetime, there were still people who continued to own slaves, but they had to basically ignore the Quran’s clear and repeated condemnation of slavery. The Quran says:
“The Arabs are the worst in disbelief and hypocrisy, and the most likely to ignore the laws that God has revealed to His messenger. . . .” [Quran 9:97]
As you mentioned, later “traditional Islamic law” covers the topic of slavery at great length, it even posthumously attributed the practice to Muhammad. But it covers slavery at great length precisely because the Quran doesn’t, except to repeatedly condemn it and urge emancipation. The first question you asked at the end of the article assumes that scripture is silent about the moral repugnance of slavery, but it isn’t. The question also assumes that we as a species came to the conclusion that slavery is wrong. Presumably, independent of, or even in spite of scripture. But I see no evidence that that’s true. People who reject scripture, like Thomas Jefferson or Richard Dawkins, sometime reject slavery in theory, but they seem to be cool with it in practice. Thomas Jefferson could write flowery words about freedom and independence while holding hundreds of humans in servitude. And Richard Dawkins can polemicize about the supposed justification of slavery in scripture, but he’s not going to give up the fortune he inherited from his slave owning ancestor, Henry Dawkins. As Dawkins’ atheist compatriot, Niall Ferguson said, “The moral simplification urge is an extraordinarily powerful one, especially in this country, where imperial guilt can lead to self-flagellation”. You see, slavery is no biggie, and there’s no need to flagellate yourself over it! It begs the question, if morality shouldn’t be based on scripture, then what should it be based on? “Science”? “Reason”? Isn’t that what Jefferson, Dawkins, and Ferguson claim to base their “morality” on?
I can’t speak for Islam but I can surely speak for Christianity. The evidence that you use for pro-slavery in the Bible is very weak and what you see as mainstream garbage found on the internet. The verse you are referring to is Ephesians 6:5. Paul tells the Ephesians to obey your earthly master AS YOU WOULD CHRIST. He is taking this unfortunate situation that they are in and trying to make it about God. If you read the Bible a little more you would find that Paul does that a lot. Not to mention that the Ephesians lived in Ephesus, which was then overtaken by the Romans. When Paul wrote this latter, he was already held in captivity by the Romans. So it seems a little weird that a slave would be making pro-slavery claims. Now, your point that Paul doesn’t drop a hint that slavery is wrong, is a very shallow argument, because that doesn’t go to show that he doesn’t think that. In fact, I know he thinks slavery is wrong, because because he says it! In Timothy 1:10 he blatantly states that slave kidnapping and slave trading is unholy, irreligious and evil. How do slaves become slaves? Well, they’re kidnapped and forced into it, then traded.
The New Testament Bible verse that you use is a very shallow and mainstream argument. The idea that Paul is hinting at is not to be pro-slavery but he is trying to get these enslaved people and trying to get them to make the situation about God. If you read the Bible a little more, you would realize Paul does that a lot. Now, the verse you are referring to is the verse written in the book of Ephesians. The Ephesians are a group of people who lived in Ephesus, which was then overtaken by Rome. When Paul wrote this book and that specific verse, he was actually enslaved in Rome at the time, so it doesn’t really make sense that a slave would be pro-slavery. You also said that he doesn’t drop a hint that slavery is wrong. In that specific verse he doesn’t, but in Timothy 1:10, also written by Paul, he blatantly stated that slave trading and slave kidnapping is unholy and evil, and how do slaves become slaves? They are kidnapped and then traded.
I think we can all agree these ancient texts from fairytalebooks are all pretty horrible whether its the quran or the old testament. Thats why its so good no people in our enlightened age believe in these horrorstories anymore and actually takes them literally as the word of god…
Err… wait…
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward ”
Quran (9:3) And a declaration from Allah and His Messenger to mankind on the greatest day (the 10th of Dhul-Hijjah – the 12th month of Islamic calendar) that Allah is free from (all) obligations to the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) and so is His Messenger. So if you (Mushrikun) repent, it is better for you, but if you turn away, then know that you cannot escape (from the Punishment of) Allah. And give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful torment to those who disbelieve.
Before you advocate for a rose coloured version of Islam, make sure you are psychologically and militarily prepared for the future outcome. Please read and educate yourself from the little of vast verses that saturate the whole of the quran. Also please get the bible and read the verses in context that this writer has with dishonest mischief has left out. We do not say these things because we hate muslims, facts of history do not lie but people do to advance their course that would put many lives in jeopardy in the long run.
Translation: “My specific holy text is divine and beyond being challenged because … your quotes are out of context, or [insert various other excuses here])”
Observation:
– The posting is not advocating support for any specific variation of belief, it is designed to challenge literalist interpretations of any religious text. Such interpretations lead to violence, intolerance, and ignorance.
This is so dumb. 1. We came here to see questionable quotes in the Quran. 2. All the Bible quotes were from Abrahamic teaching before the teachings of Jesus. 3. This is a strawman argument because proving there were some bad quotes in the Bible DOESNT dismiss the bad quotes in the Quran. 4. Over 90% of Christians & Jews dont follow the OT while majority of Muslims follow sharia law.
// proving there were some bad quotes in the Bible DOESNT dismiss the bad quotes in the Quran //
I agree.
// 2. All the Bible quotes were from Abrahamic teaching before the teachings of Jesus//
One is NT
// Over 90% of Christians & Jews dont follow the OT //
… or the NT either :-)
// Muslims follow sharia law. //
Most if asked would agree. What is fascinating is that if you dig a bit, you will find that there is no agreement on what sharia is. Like Christianity, there is a vast diversity of thinking and no agreement.
The posting is not designed to support any specific variation of belief, but to instead challenge a literalist interpretation that leads to intolerance and lack of compassion for others. This applies to all texts.
What the hell is wrong with you
Majority of people will not read your entire article and actually think these verses are from the Quran. You will unintentionally end up doing the opposite of what you are really trying to do.
You’re totally wrong, spreading these wrong concepts about the noble Qur’an these verses are not from Qur’an, may Allah guide you all to the right way and save you .
It might be worth going back and reading the rest of the posting. It actually tells you that the verses are not from the Qur’an and explains where they really come from.
I don’t think this makes the point you think it does. Putting aside the fact that it’s a huge problem that the Bible contains thse verses, it’s completely believable that they could have come from the Quran. Both texts are pretty barbaric. However, christians at least have the significantly less violent New Testament to padd the rough edges, not so much in the Quran. Soo, yeah, good job missing the big picture. And congrats for your incredible moral enlightenment of not hating Muslims.
// Both texts are pretty barbaric. //
Both texts contain things that are virtuous and noble, but also things that are abhorrent.
The argument that your preferred text is not as barbaric needs to also be considered in its historical context. It has delivered up a long history of intolerance, discrimination, crusades, and inquisitions. Not all that far back in history there were adherents who would happily disembowel and set fire to people like me, then quote the NT to justify that.
I think it’s hilarious that you try and take excerpts from the bible out of the context of the whole story, like God condoned the behavior. SMH. People are dumb enough to believe it though.
Your position is very easily verified, all you need to do is to cite one verse in which the bible explicitly condemns the concept of slavery. The fact that you did not is because no such reference exists. You should seriously pause and think about that.
To say the concept of slavery is wrong is untrue; after all, prisoners in jails and prisons are slaves as well. And that type of slavery is permitted in the American constitution, Amendment 13,
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction”
Note the “Except as a punishment for a crime” bit.
Lemme answer those three questions:
1. Slavery is NOT morally wrong. Slavery is alright, should it follow the Islamic Law that permits it. And Islamic slavery is very different from American slavery. In Islam, slaves are taken as prisoners of war, which is similar to the American prison system. In Islam, slaves are to be treated like family members. If you so much as hit a slave, you would have to set him free. Contrast that to American slavery, where slaves were whipped for hours. So it’s not slavery that’s wrong, but rather the horrible treatment of slaves which forced us(Americans) to end it.
2. See above.
3. We don’t hold a moral superiority.
st paul , st peter were not rulers , they had not the authority to abolish slavery but prophet Muhammad nabi and khalifas were rulers .if they want to abolish slavery they could have done it
Mind blown…
That’s from the Old Testament, which has been revised, we have a 2.0 in the New Testament however the quoran has not changed from day one, how about you tell the whole truth you sneaky kiddy fiddler
go back and see the Qur’an kindly all this are fake
You are 100% correct, the quotes are not from the Qur’an. I’d recommend reading the rest of the posting. It actually tells you about half way through that they are not Qur’an quotes at all and then reveals what is really going on within this posting.
bruh, this is clickbait…
Sorry I’ve been ignorant. I’ve just gone back and read it properly
In the Quran, verses refer to Servants rather than Slaves
Hi,
All of the mentioned verses are from the bible, and not the Qur’an
This is not right. some random people will come across this and think it is true
In the article you wrote Surah 135:27, whereas there are only 114 surahs in the Quran
I don’t believe the Old Testament either especially verses condoning evil. Jesus rejected a lot of the old crap. The Qu’ran has enough of its own evil as well
I’d like to use them but I can’t find your versions when looking up the same verse number
If you can’t find these quotes in the Qur’an then there is a reason for that. I’d recommend going back and reading the rest of the article to find out why.
Hello are you asking about the Quran or the bible
My brother or whoever you are…..please read full verses before you draw conclusions. It’s even in your Quran that Jesus (isa) is word of God . He performed miracles. Healed people and he died an will come again. Surah 10:94 says if you are confused about your religion ask those of the holy bible. I pray God grants you the spirit of wisdom so that you will see the light .
Marriage Christ and the Church Wives submit to your own husbands as to the Lord Ephesians 5:22.
// … He performed miracles … // – Just curious, but what actually convinces you that this really happened?
// … will come again … // – How do you know that this is actually true?
Great page Dave , thx for posting this , open gambit was impressive . Triggered quite a few ppl :)
False the Quran would never say that. I am non-muslim and did read the Quran from my muslim friend. He told more truth
It may actually be worth reading the rest of the article and not simply stoping after the first few paragraphs.
Huh, some interesting stuff you brought to the table, only I wouldn’t be inclined to believe that this is Christian because Christians don’t live in a vile society based off of treating women like garbage and slaughtering gays and non-believers. By faking texts from the bible, you have actually exposed your own flaws. The reasons why most people site texts from the quran is to draw examples from the quran to modern practices in Islamic countries following sharia law. I have never heard of any modern Christian spewing Episians 5 22, but I do know that approximately 1000 women die per year in Pakistan alone due to honor killings in a society based solely off of ideological beliefs in the quran’s many violent passages. Lately, I haven’t heard anything much about Christian sex trades, but something I do hear about all the time is PEDOPHILIA (@Muhamid with the 1st grader wife… Oh hold up, girls aren’t allowed to go to school under sharia law. 6 years old, sorry) and rape and sexual abuse running absolutely rapid in countries under sharia law, a following based entirely off of this book. Radical Christianity can’t push farther than the great depression, while radical Islam can’t seem to push farther than the dark ages.
My brother I think you’re an True Christain is I’m right then read Revelation 2:23 in which Jesus Christ ordered to kill the children’s of an adulter woman for spread sexual immorality
Leviticus 20 3
A man cannot lie with another man if he do he shall put to death and his blood in his own hands
If you’re a true christain than kill every Gay and adult superstar but you don’t because you use the reference in your favour which is a sin according to Christ.
If you’re a Jewish then it became more easy read talmud Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. “If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full.”
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who “marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean…”
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.” Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the “uncensored” text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, “Miriam the hairdresser,” had sex with many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: “Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.”
So brother what are you talking about I respect Islam , Christainity and Juda because I belongs non of them in my words believe in Christ and follow his way of Love and compassion
Christ said love your enemy
Christ said those you don’t love his brothers and sister is a sinister
Love and peace
God bless you Tyler
Either you read the translations from the internet where lies and exaggerations are everywhere or you created what you want others to think the Quran contains
As I’ve pointed out to a few others, it is probably wise to go back and read what the posting actually says. You are reacting to the title without actually reading the article.
These are FALSE QUOTATIONS. See quran.com
It is probably worth going back to the point at which you stopped reading and continuing.
You definitely love ox and sheep
Is He [not best] who guides you through the darknesses of the land and sea and who sends the winds as good tidings before His mercy? Is there a deity with Allah ? High is Allah above whatever they associate with Him. Surah 27:63…….thanks to the quran infront of me, mr google guy.☺
hey dipshit, those are all from the Old Testament.
The New Testament, what Christianity comes from, includes this thing called the “New Covenant” where God, through Jesus, basically says “I got it mostly wrong before, listen to my new stuff, and if you can pull it off, welcome to heaven.”
find a quote from the New Testament that compares to the qu’ran and you might have a leg to stand on.
Moron.
Two points …
Point 1 – You appear to think that Ephesians is OT, not NT
Point 2 – You appear to believe in a God that is a total screw up, made a complete hash of it all, and had to try again.
Actually jesus Christ shows you what is necessary to fulfill the law in the new testament, he tells us that the only way to fulfill the law is to love each other, he also clarifies that the only one who can judge people is him, did we are all guilty of breaking the law.
Mathew 22
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Well said, my thoughts exactly, the bible has been revised, the quoran has not, this guy is a trickster, liar, fraud, and a complete fool
It would be good for you to do at least some basic research before posting an article devoted to ignorance.
I guess it shows humility and courage to display publicly ones ignorance of the Bible. or does it?
That whooshing sound is the entire point of the posting rushing right over your head.
“A Wife, must submit to her husband as to Allah.” – Surah 5:22
From where you got this, I cannot find it in Quran.
Oh now I get it.
Did you even read the whole article? The author basically replaced bible verses and sort of made them sound Islamic (replaced god with allah, for example).
Dude. The last Quran quote isn’t even from the Quran. That one is from the Bible.
Well spotted. It might be worth returning to the article and reading the rest. It is not actually about the Qu’ran at all.
actually he just tricked you guys, its in the bible – but that was taken out of context , read psalm 137 carefully then you will understand gods vengeance on a wicked nation that even little ones will perish because of the curse upon that land. if a rotten many produces bacteria to kill and all in the bag is mixed and rotten , would you eat one or throw all out? think about what god means carefully. the bible is the truth.
The story about the concubine is completely taken out of context. The master of the concubine literally started a war over that incident. The tribes of Israel United against the tribe of Benjamin over this, the benjamites were destroyed because of what happened to that concubine.
Read the full story. You’re article is misleading.