Does the Quran really state that the earth is flat?

Flat-Earth-SignThe simple one word answer is “Yes”, I was writing about this a few days ago and clarified that the Quran does indeed promote a flat-earth view. There are many verses such as the following …

15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.

20:53 He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky.” With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.

43:10 (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way);

50:7 And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)

The above is only a sample, there are lots more similar references.

Does any of this actually matter?

Yes, it truly does, when you believe that the quran is perfect and every word is promoted by a god for you to obey, then you quickly find that you are using it to justify some truly abhorrent stuff such as …

  • Intolerance of all other beliefs and non-belief
  • Homophobia
  • Misogyny
  • Murder
  • Stoning
  • etc…

What is important about the flat-earth statements within the quran is that here we have hard irrefutable proof that this book is not authored by a god and contains stuff that is factually wrong. If it is wrong about the earth being flat then it is clearly crazy to use it to justify all the violence and intolerance.

So what are the counter arguments presented by Islamic Apologists when you point out a flat earth?

It is not really saying the earth is flat?

This is no straw-man, it is an actual quote … (forgive his spelling)

If i Say About 1 Mile Square Area refered “Flat” in My discusion E.g My Best Friend ask me TO have One acre of Area, I Say him loud, ” that , my dear Friend, whole flat Terotery is yours , Dont think in acres, they are Miles” so David Here word Flat Dosnt Mean Whole earth is Flat,as concerned with wiki, so i totaly agree with him, If Tow people listening me and my friend nearby suposed my refred word 4 whole earth, thy may thier own misconception or way of inovation to undrstand. If one person debate and say 4 mile squir is refred flat, and one say whole earth is flat, refring my discusion to My friend, and about thier whole Quaral

The rebuttal to my observation regarding the quran describing the earth as flat is essentially to argue that the references in the quran are relative and localized. He illustrates this by pointing  out that if you take an area of say 1 sq mile, it is flat.

The rather obvious response to that is to point out that the flatness described by the quran is applied to the entire earth and not just a local area.

For example in 20:53 we read …

الذي جعل لكم الارض مهدا وسلك لكم فيها سبلا وانزل من السماء ماء فاخرجنا به ازواجا من نبات شتى

He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky.” With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.

And just to clarify that for you مَهْدًا = mahdan = (Noun) cradle or bed, (verb) flatten, smoothen, smooth, level, cement, grade, ram, plane, roll, flat, level off … is not applied here to a local area, but to the entire earth.

Clearly for this flatness there is no localised qualifier.

The Quran mentions the actual shape of the Earth as round, not flat

He Who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels)….” The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 20, Verse 53

Does carpet mean ‘flat’ ? Carpet takes the shape of the surface below. If the carpet is put on a spherical surface then it takes the shape of the sphere, it doesn’t stay flat, does it.

Brother david there was no gramer when quran was written and all gramers are drived from quran. No where in the Quran is it mentioned the Earth is flat. I just queted the example. Actually the Quran specifically mentions the Earth is egg shaped.The Qur’an mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse:

And we have made the earth egg shaped“. The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 79, Verse 30.

Taking One Verse as consequence and leaving other Is also an amazing degree of dishonesty.

Humm, the cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

So has anybody seen a spherically shaped area that has had a carpet rolled out on it … ever?

He then quotes a verse that he claims declares the earth is shaped like an egg, so lets take a really close look at that. The claim here is that 79:30 reads “And we have made the earth egg shaped”, but does it?

Nope, it does not, his claimed translation is the true dishonesty here, the quran says no such thing.

Arabic: والارض بعد ذلك دحاها

Transliteration: Waal-arda baAAda thalika dahaha

Literal: And the earth/Planet Earth after that He blew and stretched/spread it.

What is going on here is that a couple of translations have attempted to translate the word dahaha to mean made egg-shaped or like an ‘ostrich egg’, but that is wrong. The attempt to justify this is to claim that the root word for dahaha is duhiya which means ostrich egg, but even that is not correct either.

In Arabic, each word must be derived from its root. The root usually consists of three letters that can be manipulated, by adding vowels, prefixes and suffixes in order to produce different words with different meanings. For example, “ka-ta-ba” (to write) is the root for many words such as kitab (book), maktaba (library), katib (author), maktoob (written), kitabat (writings), etc…

Let’s now take the word mentioned to mean egg of an ostrich, “Duhiya”. This word is not a root. It is a noun and is derived from “da-ha-wa”, the same root that the verb “dahaha” comes from. Furthermore, Duhiya does not even mean the egg of an ostrich.

To daha the earth means to spread it out, there is no egg shape here at all, and that is why most good translations correctly render it as streatched or spread.

We are right back to a flat earth once again.

Summary

The Quran does indeed assert that the earth is flat, and this is quite obviously wrong. The claim that the Quran is perfect and never wrong does not withstand any fact-based criticism. This of course is just one example, there are many other similar factual inaccuracies … humans are not made of clay, the moon never split in two, jinns are not real, the sun does not set in a muddy pool when it sets, and thunder is not an angel.

The real issue here is not that a text from the seventh century contains some archaic and factually wrong information, that is exactly what we would expect. Instead, the issue is that this exact same text which is full of mistakes, is claimed to be perfect and must be obeyed. The result of such obedience is homophobia, violence, and intolerance, and that is why the assertion of perfection needs to be challenged, because while this myth of divine unchallengeable scribblings prevails, real harm results.

“The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment.”
Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia, 1993

199 thoughts on “Does the Quran really state that the earth is flat?”

  1. you mentioned a verse where it says that the earth is not flat, and still come to the conclusion that the quran says that the earth is flat? can you not hold to your own arguments and references you use in your article? do you really need to play with words and manipulate things how they fit you most. you explained it very well, the surface of the earth is like a carpet, it takes it form from what under, in mountains it’s different, in fields different. and yet you say the quran says the earth is flat!! do you think we eat grass and that we are stupid and don’t think about what we read?

  2. Dude, Quran never said it is flat. All the verses you quoted means it is huge, vast and an expanse. Not flat. Please finish your Quran reading and you will find “[Quran 39.5] [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawer in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver? ”

    The Arabic word “Kura” means ball; its verb “Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ” means to make into a ball. The Quran says that the overlapping of the night and the day makes a ball (sphere).

    Read the Quran properly and not just take some verses and then make that stupid comment.

  3. Hey! Really like your thinking here as to “a book written a while ago and irrelevant for some scientific matters”.
    However, I would argue you left out – or did not research very thoroughly – what other non flatist Muslims say about this matter and tend to paint everyone with the same brush – which is always problematic if the aim of your article- very light on references and fact checking or knowledge of the book you criticize – is to (I hope) convince people to check what science has to say.
    And so, with just a few min on research, guess what you can find immediately after your page on google?

    Yes! An actual article from Islam dot org, proving you wrong in saying that the Qur’an described the earth as absolutely flat – with no other possibilities. This article presents plenty if evidence if the contrary with numerous roud earth references.

    Here is the link – please have the intellectual honesty to update your article and dig a little deeper next time :) enjoy !

    https://www.al-islam.org/philosophy-islamic-laws-nasir-makarim-shirazi-jafar-subhani/question-36-earth-being-spherical-and

  4. Your critical thingking!! Qur’an has to be read with Hadith (the time and circumstances or context,to whom it’s was said, been recorded by who) to whom such verse been revealed) !! Do not generalize the subject!! You have no idea about Classical Arabic language! This statement says your one of them !! The hate mongers !! Do not spread false info !!

  5. Hahahahaha brother still science is not able to proof yet we are a moving planet bible says same so you have any proof of sperical earth?? Let’s start with this

  6. Its really funny, may God was ignorant of things he built. Flat earth, dome shaped sky, sun rotates, around earth, lack of info on other galaxies, etc are funny. All religious manuscripts were prepared by men who liven then, with his knowledge, that’s the reason why now twisting, rolling and turning is required to prove their coexistence with facts proved by science.
    If God given these details, he should be knowing the moon walk by men in 20th Centaury, Space ships launched by men, Internet use by men, presence of 1000s of Galaxies in space existence of earth like planets around distant stars etc. Might be he also got surprised to see the ultra intelligent man and his progress.

  7. Check your facts you’re saying the book of the holy Quran is wrong but is NASA a “God” that you believe in every picture they reveal to you? No! They’re humans like us we all know they’re a billionaire company they could photoshop anything even if you think the Quran is wrong for some reason I’m pretty sure all the scientific facts were stated in the Quran before any human discovered them. I can’t believe how dumb this article is. Honestly, sorry but I had to get that out.

  8. The Quran is NOT a Science teaching Book! It is a Book of Guidance on:
    Human to human relations to live peacefully together while alive.
    Human to God relationship to earn Paradise in the next Life.

    The Quran also mentions other things in relation to the above main themes. So it talks about historical & future events; past nations; Nature; Revelation etc.
    So when it mentions Nature, it does talk about scientific concepts in simple language that ordinary people (including illiterate nomads) could understand.
    What is important to note is that, in its explanations of Nature, the Quran never goes against the facts. Many of those facts were not known 1400 years ago.

    So this topic about a Flat Earth has NEVER been in the islamic discourse, except to refute it.
    All the Islamic Scientists of the Golden Age assumed all heavenly bodies to be spherical & they invented Spherical Trignometry (as well as other tools) for their calculations.

    They all understood what the Quran & The Prophet (saw) had said about the Earth, Moon Sun etc. in their original language & they were all known to be spherical objects.

    Just have a read of this article to see that a number of Christians (e.g. St Augustine) believed in a Flat Earth with supports for the Sky! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

    It also says: “The Abbasid Caliphate saw a great flowering of astronomy and mathematics in the 9th century AD.

    Muslim scholars of the past believed in a spherical Earth.

    The Quran mentions that the Earth (al-arḍ) was “spread out”.[129] To this 12th-century commentary, the Tafsir al-Kabir (al-Razi) by Fakhr al-din al-Razi, states “If it is said: Do the words ‘And the Earth We spread out’ indicate that it is flat? We would respond: Yes, because the Earth, even though it is round, is an enormous sphere, and each little part of this enormous sphere, when it is looked at, appears to be flat. As that is the case, this will dispel what they mentioned of confusion. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘And the mountains as pegs’ [an-Naba’ 78:7]. He called them awtaad (pegs) even though these mountains may have large flat surfaces. And the same is true in this case.”[130]
    The 11th-century scholar Ibn Hazm stated, “Evidence shows that the Earth is a sphere but public people say the opposite.”

    He added, “NONE OF THOSE who deserve being Imams for MUSLIMS HAS DENIED THAT EARTH IS ROUND. And we have not received anything indicates a denial, not even a single word.”[131]

    Scholar Ibn Taymiyyah stated that the Earth is spherical and not flat. He stated that the Arabic word falak (Arabic: فَلَكٍ‎) refers to that which is round. Ibn Abbas said it is like that of a spinning wheel.[132] The word is used in Quran 21:33 and Quran 36:40. The scholar Al-Suyuti stated that the belief in a flat Earth is a deviation.[132]

    In those days, everybody believed that the Sky or Heavens were help up by Pillars (Job 26:11) or Walls etc ( https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/gre13.htm)

    but the Quran went against such ideas (31:10 & 13:2).

    So if all the ‘experts’ of that time (Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans etc) agreed on this, why did the Quran say the opposite?
    Opposing the status quo on anything usually results in getting ridiculed & called a Liar /stupid/mad/posessed etc!

    Today, the vast majority of Flat Earthers are Westerners, who have been brainwashed by internet fake news SIMILAR TO WHAT THIS SITE PROMOTES ABOUT ISLAM!!

    Interesting articles:
    Copernicus and Ibn Al-Shatir: does the Copernican revolution have Islamic roots.This article shows that Copernicus relied on Islamic Sources for his theory.
    http://adsbit.harvard.edu/full/seri/HisSc/0045//0000065.000.html

    BBC documentary – how Copernicus copied Islamic Scholars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUc3fnL4zQ

  9. Skeptical Science is not some linguist expert. But still there is no disputing that the surface of the earth does appear flat. But the Bible is itself known to mention that the Earth is round. It is known that Arabs and Muhammad did indeed read Bible, the stoning etc comes from it. The claim of Muslims not knowing earth is round is based on poor research which is best left to real religious scholars.

  10. You can do and think what you like, but there is nothing from other scriptures that is as close to the perfection of the Quran, as Muslim we only see its perfection, and the unbeliever they can say what they want and they cannot even deny the corruption and unworthy of truth from their own scriptures.

  11. We should disregard our social and academic conditioning, to follow our God given senses. Doing so will allow you to question everything. The Quran is correct, the earth is Flat and immovable. Sun moon and stars rotate above and around us like the hands of a clock that’s been taken off the wall and placed on a flat surface. The sun never goes down it simply moves away from our site leaving the illusion that it is setting. One reason for this is because the sun and moon is not as big or as far away as we’re taught. Every single peace of so called evidence to suggest or prove the earth is round can be easily debunked. Clear your mind first,then do your own unbiased research. Peace

  12. No matter how truth the Quran is you will refute because nobody wanna know the truth

    People like you loves to believe in conjectures or cartoon like Marvel and DC comics but the truth no wanna know.

    Anyway, The AlMighty God is not going to cry if all mankind in this sickening world refuse to acknowledge HIM! It is not a problem for HIM, Worst come to worst, HE will destroy this sickening world with sickening people like you and create new beings better than you/us and all of them will kneel and prostrate to HIM!

  13. Well I think the carpet can be moved and it covers the thing which is under . For our earth our ground is moveable ( tectonic plates) and it also covers the lava which are at the center of the earth.
    So what do u think? Pls reply

  14. This is just straight up propaganda that it’s sad. Muslims don’t believe in Misogyny, or Murder. It is said that if you kill a person, it’s equavalent to killing all of mankind and it’s a very punishable sin. One of the most worst sins you could commit. Don’t lie to make whatever your religion seem better. Oh and we also believe the teachings of Christianity and Judaism are true as well. The Bible, Torah, and Quran are all considered to be the holy books.

  15. I’m a Muslim. I do’t believe the Earth is flat. Most Muslims believe the Earth is round. Get your facts right.

  16. It’s been a consensus of the Islamic scholars that the earth is round but the land was stretched out flat so we can inhabit it comfortably.

    Consensus that the Earth is round
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    Question
    Is there consensus that the Earth is round? If there is, then what is the evidence from the Qur’an or Sunnah that the Earth is round or egg shaped?
    Answer

    Praise be to Allah.
    More than one of the scholars have narrated that there is consensus that the Earth is round. For example:

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) narrated that from Abu’l-Husayn ibn al-Munaadi (may Allah have mercy on him), when he said:

    Imam Abu’l-Husayn Ahmad ibn Ja‘far ibn al-Munaadi narrated from the prominent scholars who are well known for knowledge of reports and major works in religious sciences, from the second level of Ahmad’s companions, that there was no difference of opinion among the scholars that the sky is like a ball.

    He said: Similarly they were unanimously agreed that the Earth, with all that is contains of land and sea is like a ball. He said: That is indicated by the fact that the sun, moon and stars do not rise and set over those who are in different parts of the earth at the same time; rather that occurs in the east before it occurs in the west.

    Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (25/195)

    The heavens are round, according to the Muslim scholars. More than one of the scholars and Muslim leaders narrated that the Muslims are unanimously agreed on that, such as Abu’l-Husayn Ahmad ibn Ja‘far ibn al-Munaadi, one of the leading figures among the second level of the companions of Imam Ahmad, who wrote approximately four hundred books. Consensus on this point was also narrated by Imam Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm and Abu’l-Faraj ibn al-Jawzi. The scholars narrated that with well-known chains of narration (isnaads) from the Sahaabah and Taabi‘een, and they quoted that from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger. They discussed that in detail with orally-transmitted evidence. There is also mathematical evidence to that effect, and I do not know of anyone among the well-known Muslim scholars who denied that, apart from a few of those who engaged in arguments who, when they debated with the astrologers denied it for the sake of argument and said: It may be square or hexagonal and so on. They did not deny that it could be round, but they said that the opposite of that was possible. I do not know of anyone who said that it is not round – with any certainty – apart from some ignorant people to whom no onr pays any attention to Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (6/586)

    We are going to discuss some of the arguments against the idea that the earth is round. They said: There is sound evidence that the earth is round, but the common folk say otherwise. Our response – and Allah is the source of strength – is that none of the leading Muslim scholars who deserve to be called imams or leaders in knowledge (may Allah be pleased with them) denied that the earth is round, and there is no narration from them to deny that. Rather the evidence in the Qur’an and Sunnah stated that it is round. … and he quoted evidence to that effect
    al-Fasl fi’l-Milal wa’l-Ahwa’ wa’l-Nihal (2/78)

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    Consensus that the Earth is round
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    Question
    Is there consensus that the Earth is round? If there is, then what is the evidence from the Qur’an or Sunnah that the Earth is round or egg shaped?
    Answer

    Praise be to Allah.
    More than one of the scholars have narrated that there is consensus that the Earth is round. For example:

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) narrated that from Abu’l-Husayn ibn al-Munaadi (may Allah have mercy on him), when he said:

    Imam Abu’l-Husayn Ahmad ibn Ja‘far ibn al-Munaadi narrated from the prominent scholars who are well known for knowledge of reports and major works in religious sciences, from the second level of Ahmad’s companions, that there was no difference of opinion among the scholars that the sky is like a ball.

    He said: Similarly they were unanimously agreed that the Earth, with all that is contains of land and sea is like a ball. He said: That is indicated by the fact that the sun, moon and stars do not rise and set over those who are in different parts of the earth at the same time; rather that occurs in the east before it occurs in the west.

    End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (25/195)

    He (may Allah have mercy on him) was asked about two men who disputed about the nature of heaven and earth: were they both round bodies? One of them said that they were, but the other denied that and said there is no basis for that. What is the correct view?

    He replied:

    The heavens are round, according to the Muslim scholars. More than one of the scholars and Muslim leaders narrated that the Muslims are unanimously agreed on that, such as Abu’l-Husayn Ahmad ibn Ja‘far ibn al-Munaadi, one of the leading figures among the second level of the companions of Imam Ahmad, who wrote approximately four hundred books. Consensus on this point was also narrated by Imam Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm and Abu’l-Faraj ibn al-Jawzi. The scholars narrated that with well-known chains of narration (isnaads) from the Sahaabah and Taabi‘een, and they quoted that from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger. They discussed that in detail with orally-transmitted evidence. There is also mathematical evidence to that effect, and I do not know of anyone among the well-known Muslim scholars who denied that, apart from a few of those who engaged in arguments who, when they debated with the astrologers denied it for the sake of argument and said: It may be square or hexagonal and so on. They did not deny that it could be round, but they said that the opposite of that was possible. I do not know of anyone who said that it is not round – with any certainty – apart from some ignorant people to whom no one pays any attention.

    End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (6/586)

    Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Evidence for the earth being round:

    Abu Muhammad said: We are going to discuss some of the arguments against the idea that the earth is round. They said: There is sound evidence that the earth is round, but the common folk say otherwise. Our response – and Allah is the source of strength – is that none of the leading Muslim scholars who deserve to be called imams or leaders in knowledge (may Allah be pleased with them) denied that the earth is round, and there is no narration from them to deny that. Rather the evidence in the Qur’an and Sunnah stated that it is round. … and he quoted evidence to that effect.

    End quote from al-Fasl fi’l-Milal wa’l-Ahwa’ wa’l-Nihal (2/78)

    The evidence that the earth is round includes the following:

    Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “He created the heavens and earth for a true purpose; He wraps the night around the day and the day around the night”

    [az-Zumar 39:5].

    Ibn Hazm and others quoted this verse as evidence.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

    The earth is round, based on the evidence of the Qur’an, reality, and scientific views.

    The evidence of the Qur’an is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “He created the heavens and earth for a true purpose; He wraps the night around [yukawwir] the day and the day around the night”

    [az-Zumar 39:5].

    The word yukawwir (translated here as “wraps around” means to make something round, like a turban. It is well-known that night and day follow one another on earth, which implies that the Earth is round, because if you wrap one thing around another thing, and the thing that it is wrapped around is the Earth, then Earth must be round.

    With regard to real-life evidence, this has been proven. If a man were to fly from Jeddah, for example, heading west, he would come back to Jeddah from the east, if he flew in a straight line. This is something concerning which no one differs.

    With regard to the words of the scholars, they stated that if a man died in the west at sunset, and another died in the west at sunset, and there was some distance between them, the one who died in the west at sunset would inherit from the one who died in the east at sunset, if he was one of his heirs. This indicates that the earth is round, because if the earth were flat, sunset in all regions would occur at the same time. Once this is established, no one can deny it. This is not contradicted by the verses in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Do they not look at the camels, how they are created?

    And at the heaven, how it is raised?

    And at the mountains, how they are rooted and fixed firm?

    And at the earth, how it is spread out?”

    [al-Ghaashiyah 88:17-20]

    Because the Earth is huge and its curvature cannot be seen from a short distance, it appears to be spread out and one cannot see anything that would make one fear living on it, but this does not contradict the fact that it is round, because it is very big. However they say that it is not evenly round; rather it is indented or pushed in at the north and south poles. Hence they say that it is egg-shaped.

    Fataawa Noor ‘ala ad-Darb

    Reconciling between the view that the Earth is round and the verse “And Allah has made for you the earth wide spread (an expanse)” [Nooh 71:19]
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    Question
    Could you please explain these Quranic verse. Actually one Non Muslim asked me to explain these verses.
    Quran 71:19 And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out).
    Quran 78:6 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, What does it mean ?
    Quran 15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.
    Does it mean that Earth is flat? Tafsir Jalalayn says that EARTH is flat. But it is against Established Science.
    Answer

    Praise be to Allah
    Firstly:

    The scholars are unanimously agreed that the earth is round, but to human eyes it appears to be flat, because it is very big and its roundness or curvature cannot be seen at close distances. So the one who stands and looks sees it as flat, but when viewed as a whole, in reality it is round.

    Ibn Hazm (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

    The proofs of the Qur’an and Sunnah indicate that it is round. End quote.

    See also the answers to questions no. 201530 and 118698

    Secondly:

    The verse (interpretation of the meaning) “And Allah has made for you the earth wide spread (an expanse)” [Nooh 71:19] indicates that it is spread out and shaped so that people can feel settled in it and be able to live and prosper in it. Ibn Katheer said:

    That is, He spread it out, prepared it, made it stable and made it firm by means of the mountains.

    Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 8/247

    Similarly, the verse (interpretation of the meaning) “Have We not made the earth as a bed” [an-Naba’ 78:6] means that it is spread out and prepared for you and for your benefit, so that you can cultivate it, build dwellings in it and travel through it.

    Ibn Katheer said:

    That is, it is prepared for people in such a way that they can live in it, and it is firm, stable and steady.

    Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 8/307

    And the verse (interpretation of the meaning) “And the earth We spread out, and placed therein firm mountains, and caused to grow therein all kinds of things in due proportion” [al-Hijr 15:19] means We spread it out and placed firm mountains therein. This is like the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And it is He Who spread out the earth, and placed therein firm mountains and rivers” [ar-Ra‘d 13:3].

    There is no contradiction between saying that it is round and saying that it was spread out, because in fact in its totality it is round, but to the one who stands on it and looks at it, it appears flat, as it appears to everyone.

    Ar-Raazi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

    If it is said: Do the words “And the earth We spread out” indicate that it is flat?

    We would respond: Yes, because the earth, even though it is round, is an enormous sphere, and each little part of this enormous sphere, when it is looked at, appears to be flat. As that is the case, this will dispel what they mentioned of confusion. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mountains as pegs” [an-Naba’ 78:7]. He called them awtaad (pegs) even though these mountains may have large flat surfaces. And the same is true in this case.

    Tafseer ar-Raazi, 19/131

    The author of this piece is a deliberate liar. The Quran states the earth’s surface is flat while the earthbitself is a sphere. The scholars since the 8th century have been in consensus that the Quran and hadith point explicitly to a round earth with a flattened surface.

  17. Too many muslims in denial in the comments saying you changed the meanings of the Aiyat how ironic of them.The Quran clearly says that land is spread out and they are trying to work their way around it to prove otherwise. Just stop, this is pathetic.

  18. Let me correct you .my Holy Quran says that the earth egg shaped : spherical
    It’s like a carpet means that the crust of the earth is wrapped on the egg shaped core .
    And how dare you say that Islam promotes those sins you mentioned , are you out of your mind . Islam Restricts all muslims from All Sins.
    I can prove that humans are made out of clay.
    You put a dead body in water,it does not dissolve
    You put a dead body in fire , it turns to Ash but does not become fire,you put aa dea body in air , it does not become air ,but you put a dead body under the ground , its withers away until nothing is left.
    The moon never split? Then whats the big crack mark throughout its surface?(which you don’t know about and will go on blabbering about that there is no mark without research)
    There are no jinnat? I personally have experienced things I can’t say and
    I hope one finds his way to you.
    And thunder is not an angel?
    Well who ever said that thunder is an angel?
    Thunder is what the angel rides upon.
    And the result of obedience of Allah is violence crime and hatred?
    Allah’s only order is to do justice and spread love which is explained in the Quran as a how-to.
    Where Prophet Muhammad S.A.W is the practical example of that how-to.
    And violence intolerance etc are in US,Europe although they don’t follow Islam can you tell me why?
    No you can’t cuz you just can’t.

    You just got owned

    • “It’s like a carpet means that the crust of the earth is wrapped on the egg shaped core” Stop creating new meanings. This is dumb.

  19. Believing in a Baal sphere going around the sun in the infinit space with us people who came from an explosion, first we was monkeys, than we make (D) EVOLUTION transforming same as we are today
    (ALL OF THIS IS A SELF-DISTRACTION)
    You can’t be a muslim and in same time believing in such a thing no way only if you are a highly fool mind.
    If you believe in this stop saying you are a muslim, you are not, YOU ARE A FOOL ATHEIST (with Qur’an in hand /similarly in which Allah says about DONKEY keeping BOOKS in his back).

  20. Anyone with half a brain knows that NASA are liars and deceives. This plane is most definitely flat. Only fools think they live on a spinning baby blue ball.

    • “Anyone with half a brain knows that NASA are liars and deceives” – Those people will full brains know that they are not.

  21. You going through all this try to prove “something”. You just want the ayah to fit your ideology. There’s no science or explanation behind it. You are basically talking with baseless opinion. Astronomy have existed many years ago and many of the Astronomy are Muslims. Both proven by science and the Quran itself. The earth actually not “perfectly” round in shape but instead it is a bit smaller in the middle due to earth rotation on its axis. So it does have that “egg” looking features to it. Don’t ever try to interpret the Quran without a strong knowledge. I’m afraid that you will change the real meaning behind the Quran. Not everyone can interpret the Quran.

    • When presented with facts, there are two ways muslims react to them, one is to call names “racists”, “bigots”. The second way is to make excuses such as the one above “Not everyone can interpret the quran”. If muslims are so good at astronomy, why does the quran mentions that thunder are angels and stars are missiles used against the devils. If muslims are so good at maths, science and astronomy, where the fuck is your rocket? NASA went to space and back. Fuck you on about dirty pedo.

      • Lmao. Who invented thd first rocket??? Whos a dirty pedo your dad??? Excuses? Ya moron. The ir was no question tho the answer of we layed the earth flat as a carpet. It could also mean that look how even bei g round its flat to u and everythings in balance. Dirty??? You brush your teeth twice a day. I wash my ass more than 5 times a day. That means .scientifically that means my ass is cleaner than tour mouth

  22. And the sun runs its course to a place appointed, that is the determining of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. Qur’an 36:38

    The universe’s lamp, the sun, forms a window onto the existence and unity of the universe’s Maker that is as brilliant and luminous as the sun itself. Indeed, despite their great differences with regard to size, position, and speed, the twelve planets including our globe known as the solar system are in motion and revolve with perfect order and wisdom and perfect balance without a second’s confusion, and are bound to the sun through a Divine law known as gravity, that is, they follow their leader as though in prayer. This demonstrates on a vast scale the tremendousness of Divine power and the unity of their Sustainer. Those lifeless bodies, those vast unconscious masses, are rotated and employed within the utmost order and wise balance, in various forms and over varying distances and in varying motions, proving the degree of the power and the wisdom; you compare for yourself. If chance was to interfere the tiniest amount in this vast and complex matter, it would cause an explosion so great it would scatter the universe. If it was to arrest the motion of one of them for a minute, it would cause it to leave its orbit and would open the possibility of its colliding with another planet.You can understand how awesome would be the collision of bodies thousands of times larger than the earth.

    Now we shall refer to the all-encompassing knowledge of God the wonders of the solar system, that is, the twelve planets which are the sun’s followers and fruits, and consider only our own planet, the earth, which is here before our eyes. We see that our planet is made to travel on a long journey around the sun by a dominical command as its most important duty –as is described in the Third Letter– in a way that demonstrates the grandeur of dominical majesty and the loftiness of the sovereignty of the Godhead and the perfection of His mercy and wisdom. It has been made a dominical ship filled with the wonders of Divine art, and a travelling dwelling like an exhibition, for God’s conscious servants to gaze on. And the moon has been attached to it with precise reckoning for mighty instances of wisdom, like being an hour-hand for telling the time. The moon too has been given various mansions through which to journey. Thus, these aspects of this blessed planet of ours prove the necessary existence and unity of a Possessor of Absolute Power with a testimony as powerful as the globe of the earth itself. You can make an analogy with the rest of the solar system from this.

    Furthermore, the sun is made to turn on its own axis like a spinning-wheel, in order to wind into a ball the immaterial threads called gravity and tie the planets with them and set them in order. So too is it impelled together with its planets at a speed that cuts five hours’ distance a second towards, according to one estimate, the Constellation of Hercules, or towards the ‘Sun of Suns’. This most certainly occurs through the power and at the command of the All-Glorious One, the Monarch of Pre-Eternity and Post-Eternity. It is as though He makes the solar system perform these manoeuvres like a platoon of soldiers under orders, and so demonstrates the majesty of His dominicality.
    O you astronomers! What chance can interfere in these matters? The hands of what causes can reach them? What force can draw close to this? Come on, you say! Would an All-Glorious Monarch such as this display impotence and permit others to have a role in his sovereignty? Would He give to other hands living creatures in particular, which are the fruit, result, aim, and essence of the universe? Would He permit another to interfere? Especially man, would He leave him to his own devices, the most comprehensive of those fruits, the most perfect of the results, vicegerent of the earth, and His mirror-like guest? Would He refer him to nature and chance and reduce the majesty of His sovereignty to nothing; reduce to nothing His perfect wisdom?

    Have We not made the earth a cradle, And the mountains as pegs, And created you as pairs? Qur’an 78:6-8 So behold the signs of God’s Mercy, how He raises to life the earth after its death. Qur’an 30:50

    The globe of the earth is a head with a hundred thousand mouths. In each mouth are a hundred thousand tongues. On each tongue are a hundred thousand proofs, each one of which testifies in numerous ways to the necessary existence, unity, sacred attributes, and Most Beautiful Names of an All-Glorious One.

    Yes, we consider the first creation of the earth and we see that rock was created from matter in a fluid state, and that soil was created from rock. If that substance had remained fluid, it would not have been habitable, and if after becoming rock, the fluid had become hard as iron, it would not have suitable for use. So what gave it its state was surely the wisdom of an All-Wise Maker Who saw the needs of the earth’s inhabitants. Then the layer of soil was thrown over the pegs of mountains so that the earthquakes arising from internal upheavals could breathe through the mountains and they would not cause the earth to be shaken out of its motion and duties, and so that the mountains would preserve the earth from the encroachment of the sea, and all would be storehouses for the vital necessities of living beings, and would purify the air from noxious gases so allowing living beings to breathe, and so that they would accumulate and hold water reserves, and would be a source and mine for the minerals necessary for living creatures.

    Thus, this situation testifies most clearly and powerfully to the necessary existence and unity of a Possessor of Absolute Power, an All-Wise and Compassionate One.

    O geographers! With what can you explain this? What chance could make this dominical ship full of these wonderful creatures into an exhibition of marvels, and spin it at a speed whereby it covers a distance of twenty-four thousand years a year while not allowing a single of the objects arranged on its face to fall off?

    Consider also the strange arts on the face of the earth. How wisely the elements are employed in their functions! How well they attend to the guests of the Most Merciful One on the earth through the command of that All-Wise and Powerful One, and hasten to serve them!
    Also look at these embroidered lines within strange and wondrous arts on face of the earth, multicolored and full of strange wisdom! See how the brooks and streams, seas and rivers, mountains and hills have all been made dwellings and means of transport suitable for His various creatures and servants. See how with perfect wisdom and order He has then filled them with hundreds of thousands of varieties of plants and animals, and given them life and made them rejoice, and how regularly minute by minute He discharges the creatures and empties those dwellings with death, and then once again in orderly fashion refills them in the form of ‘resurrection after death.’ This testifies with hundreds of thousands of tongues to the necessary existence and unity of an All-Powerful One of Glory, an All-Wise One of Perfection.

    In Short: The earth, the face of which is an exhibition of marvels of art, a display of wonders of creation, a place of passage for the caravans of beings, and a mosque and dwelling for the ranks of worshippers, is like the heart of all the universe; it thus displays the light of Divine unity to the same degree as the universe.

    O geographer! If the head of the earth has a hundred thousand mouths and with the hundred thousand tongues in each it makes known God, and still you do not recognize Him and plunge your head in the swamp of nature, then ponder over the greatness of your fault! Know what a grievous punishment it makes you deserve! Come to your senses and extract your head from the swamp! Say, I believe in God in Whose hand is the sovereignty of all things.

  23. ….and Christains that believe their rendition of the Torah reads any different in their bible need to pull their head out of their ass.

  24. As in the bible the word flat is never mentioned.

    Can be made to fit nothing more.

    EVIDENCE like watching a simple sun set proves “ if nothing else the earth is not flat! “

    The sun does not fade into the distance but drops down.

    THE EARTH IS NOT FLAT ! Perspective; convergence; atmospheric lensing

    CANNOT ACCOUNT FOR 7/8 ths OF THE SUN BEING CUT OFF AT THE BOTTOM.

  25. Sam gerrans, flat earth…. search for him..on YouTube on internet… the earth is flat.. not a spinning ball with water on it.. you are just looking stupid not knowing the Qur’an

  26. whomever you are stop with the bs you know damn well the Quran is not talking about spreading a carpet over a damn sphere

    • You are correct, the Quran does not imply anywhere that the Earth is a sphere. If anything it is leaning towards a leveled earth or non spherical earth. People have to choose between what scientists claim or what the Bible and Quran claim

  27. So let’s do another approach. We emphazis on the word “made”. He Who has, MADE for you the earth like a carpet spread out. It means that God MADE the earth very very big compare to humankind so we will see that the land is flat.

  28. The person who has given his own interpretation of Quranic word “DAHAHA” does not give any logical answer as he has just been beating around the bush and finally said Dahaha does not mean “Ostrich Egg” out of his own wish. But whoever want to know the meaning of word DAHAHA could see the word representing Ostrich Egg in ancient Arabic and surely he will find the word DAHAHA there.

    • Dahaha does not mean Ostrich egg, look it up in the classical arabic definition and what people (back then) who understood the language say

  29. You guys are mislead, and not very observant of the truth to Islam. Ultimately, you guys are just not very smart because you do not have rational insightful understanding that can be understood just by rational logic.

    We Muslim know the carpet means the ability to walk on, sit on, and relax on, like a cover. A carpet can be bumpy due to the textual nature of the land the carpet was laid on. because you lay a carpet onto the ground that is presumed flat, doesn’t mean your planet is not round or spherical.

    The Quran mentions sun rising from the Easts and and sets in the Wests, there is no way Easts and Wests can exist without the degree’s that indicate the plains of what is east and what is west. The driving force for this understanding is the rotation of the sun we see on earth.

    Ultimately, since the earth is in orbit we know that the rises from the Easts (from different positions, not just 1 fixed position) and sets in the Wests (from multiple positions, not one specific position) this is due to the orbit and the spherical nature of Earth.

    So the lord of the universe speaks of the earth being in orbit and it has a spherical nature (which common science identifies as an Easts and Wests). The lord of the universe also glorifies his ability to make his landscape flat like a carpet to relax on, walk on, not some odd shaped platform that is deemed uncomfortable. You wouldn’t put a carpet on the very tip of a mountains peek that is pointy, would you?

    Here is what a scholar can also tell you:

    Praise be to Allah
    Firstly:

    The scholars are unanimously agreed that the earth is round, but to human eyes it appears to be flat, because it is very big and its roundness or curvature cannot be seen at close distances. So the one who stands and looks sees it as flat, but when viewed as a whole, in reality it is round.

    Ibn Hazm (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

    The proofs of the Qur’an and Sunnah indicate that it is round. End quote.

    See also the answers to questions no. 201530 and 118698

    Secondly:

    The verse (interpretation of the meaning) “And Allah has made for you the earth wide spread (an expanse)” [Nooh 71:19] indicates that it is spread out and shaped so that people can feel settled in it and be able to live and prosper in it. Ibn Katheer said:

    That is, He spread it out, prepared it, made it stable and made it firm by means of the mountains.

    Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 8/247

    Similarly, the verse (interpretation of the meaning) “Have We not made the earth as a bed” [an-Naba’ 78:6] means that it is spread out and prepared for you and for your benefit, so that you can cultivate it, build dwellings in it and travel through it.

    Ibn Katheer said:

    That is, it is prepared for people in such a way that they can live in it, and it is firm, stable and steady.

    Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 8/307

    And the verse (interpretation of the meaning) “And the earth We spread out, and placed therein firm mountains, and caused to grow therein all kinds of things in due proportion” [al-Hijr 15:19] means We spread it out and placed firm mountains therein. This is like the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And it is He Who spread out the earth, and placed therein firm mountains and rivers” [ar-Ra‘d 13:3].

    There is no contradiction between saying that it is round and saying that it was spread out, because in fact in its totality it is round, but to the one who stands on it and looks at it, it appears flat, as it appears to everyone.

    Ar-Raazi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

    If it is said: Do the words “And the earth We spread out” indicate that it is flat?

    We would respond: Yes, because the earth, even though it is round, is an enormous sphere, and each little part of this enormous sphere, when it is looked at, appears to be flat. As that is the case, this will dispel what they mentioned of confusion. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mountains as pegs” [an-Naba’ 78:7]. He called them awtaad (pegs) even though these mountains may have large flat surfaces. And the same is true in this case.

    End quote from Tafseer ar-Raazi, 19/131

    Shaykh ash-Shanqeeti (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

    If the scholars of Islam affirm that the earth is round, then what would they say about the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Do they not look at the camels, how they are created?

    And at the heaven, how it is raised?

    And at the mountains, how they are rooted and fixed firm?

    And at the earth, how it is spread out?”

    [al-Ghaashiyah 88:17-20].

    Their response will be the same as their response concerning the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water” [al-Kahf 18:86] – that is, as it appears to be in the eye of the beholder, because the sun sets on one country, but remains up in the sky for another, until it rises from the east on the following morning. So the earth looks flat in every region or part of it, because of its immense size.

    This does not contradict its real shape, because we may see a very high mountain, but if we climb it and reach its summit we may find a flat surface there, and find an entire nation living there, and some of the people there may not know anything about the rest of the world, and so on. End quote.

    Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 8/428

    Shaykh Rafee‘ ad-Deen ibn Waliyullah ad-Dahlawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said in his book at-Takmeel:

    Some may understand words such as “made the earth as a bed” [an-Naba’ 78:6], “He spread the earth” [an-Naazi‘aat 79:30] and “…how it is spread out…” [al-Ghaashiyah 88: 20] as meaning that it is flat, whereas the scholars affirm that it is round on the basis of sound evidence, so it is thought that there is a conflict. That may be refuted by the fact that the visible part of it (for a person standing on it) appears flat, because the larger a circle is, the more spread out it is, so we may say that it is flat on the basis of that part of it that is visible to us, and it is round in its totality, on the basis of rational thinking.

    Quoted from him by Siddeeq Hasan Khan in his tafseer, Fath al-Bayaan, 15/208

    And Allah knows best.

    • Brother, I urge you to go to “sam gerrans” channel on YOUTUBE. Be did the pantextual translation of the Quran, he is an Arabic linguist.. he has a dedicated video on the truth of the flat earth. I think people are scared that the earth could be flat, especially athiest.. however if you do really believe in God, then why cant the earth be flat? Why can’t Satan exist to lie on such a grand scale? NASA is lies.. why they don’t let you go to Antarctica on your own and only at 3 points and fire a high price… cause we are surrounded by it.. the antarctic circle.. they lied to make us think we are a spec of dust.. cause of they let the truth be known, then God would be feared further more. Athiest would not exist..

  30. Mankind has only been able to dig/drill 8 miles deep.. so nobody has any true idea what’s below further down.. it’s only a guess.

    Also the sky He raised as a canopy, a ceiling. So w have a dome above, the sky is a solid structure.

    77.25, We have made the earth a container. (Also, Job 37.18, can you like Him, spread out the skies hard as molten mirror?) Container.

    79.30 is not talking about an ostrich egg but a ostrich nest.. laid out and we’ll protected.

    2.22 the sky a structure…..

    7.40 the skies have gates…..

    17.92, cause the sky to fall in peices….

    21.32, sky a protected roof….

    25.61, moon and burning torch therein…

    50.60, no Gaps in the sky….

    We ain’t spinning into space.. the waters above the firmament are real. There is no space.

    • I believe the sky has gates my beloved mother in law was cremated and 2days after her cremation I saw my self lying down on soil in her garden bed and she just come out of her home on her walking stick the sky warped as like when you throw a stone in the water then suddenly so quickly the sky opened exactly like a gate and she zoomed up as if like your in a lift and within split seconds she was gone the gates shut so quick …subhanaallah .may she rest in piece inshaallah

  31. Refutation

    The Quran says that Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet. This gives an indication that the earth is flat. Does this not contradict established modern science?

    1. Earth made as a carpet

    The question refers to a verse from the Qur’an in Surah Nuh:
    “And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out).” The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 71, Verse 19

    But the sentence in the above verse is not complete. It continues in the next verse, explaining the previous verse. It says: “That ye may go about therein, in spacious roads.” The Holy Quran, Chapter 71, Verse 20

    A similar message is repeated in Surah TaHa:

    “He Who has made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels)….” The Holy Quran, Chapter 20, Verse 53

    The surface of the earth i.e. earth’s crust is less than 30 miles in thickness and is very thin as compared to the radius of the earth which is about 3750 miles. The deeper layers of the earth are very hot, fluid and hostile to any form of life. The earth’s crust is a solidified shell on which we can live. The Quran rightly refers to it like a carpet spread out, so that we can travel along its roads and paths.

    1. Carpet can also be spread on other than an absolute flat surface

    Not a single verse of the Quran says that the earth is flat. The Quran only compares the earth’s crust with a carpet. Some people seem to think that carpet can only be put on an absolute flat surface. It is possible to spread a carpet on a large sphere such as the earth. It can easily be demonstrated by taking a huge model of the earth’s globe covering it with a carpet.

    Carpet is generally put on a surface, which is not very comfortable to walk on. The Quran describes the earth crust as a carpet, without which human beings would not be able to survive because of the hot, fluid and hostile environment beneath it. The Quran is thus not only logical, it is mentioning a scientific fact that was discovered by geologists centuries later.

    1. Earth has been spread out

    Similarly, the Quran says in several verses that the earth has been spread out.

    “And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: how excellently We do spread out!” The Holy Quran, Chapter 51, Verse 48

    Similarly the Quran also mentions in several other verses that the earth is an expanse:

    “Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse. And the mountains as pegs?” The Holy Quran, Chapter 78, Verse 6-7

    None of these verses of the Quran contain even the slightest implication that the earth is flat. It only indicates that the earth is spacious and the reason for this spaciousness of the earth is mentioned. The Quran says:

    “O My servants who believe! truly. spacious is My Earth: therefore serve ye Me –(And Me alone)!”

    The Holy Quran, Chapter 29, Verse 56
    Therefore none can give the excuse, that he could not do good and was forced to do evil because of the surroundings and circumstances.

    1. Earth is geospherical in shape

    The Quran mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse: “And we have made the earth egg shaped”. The Holy Quran, Chapter 79, Verse 30

    The “dahu” in the Arabic Language means to extend and even out. It is said: “daha” the thing; “yad’hu dahwan”. These terms can mean he either evened out and extended it or he threw it and rolled it. It is also said: “the rain daha the stones from the face of the earth,” which means it rolled it and washed it away. It is also said: “The horse passed by yad’hu dahwan,” which means he is beating his foot on the ground and yad’hu its sand. Also, the ostrich’s mad’hi means its laying of its eggs, and “ad’hiha” is the nest where its chicks are born.

    So as we clearly see, all of the above Arabic words that are derived from “daha” mean:
    1- To extend.
    2- To roll.
    3- To even out.
    4- Causing to become egg-shaped or creating, making or producing eggs (see the ostrich’s mad’hi example above).

    The meanings all derive from the root word in arabic, there is nothing wrong with applying all the meanings especially amazing in this situation seeing as they are all true. Arabic is a rich language and words usually have more then one meaning

    The Arabic word dahaha in Noble Verse 79:30 above did have multiple meanings and uses. One of them was when one refers to an ostrich egg. Another was when referring to making something extended, spread out, stretched and/or expanded. This is an example of how Allah Almighty uses scientific notions in the Noble Quran when He talked about how He created certain things. He gave words that had multiple meanings and interpretations to them to make the Noble Quran truly be for all times and all places, and show it has deeper meanings. The meanings unravel more and more as scientific discoveries increase

    The shape of the earth being similar to an oblate spheroid [ Also according to Wikipedia: “The Earth’s shape is very close to an oblate spheroid—a rounded shape with a bulge around the equator—although the precise shape (the geoid) varies from this by up to 100 metres (327 ft).”

    Eggs can be described as prolate spheroids, ovate spehroids or oblate spheroids. The fact is the word used in the Quran has particular root link to an ostrich egg

    We are specifically observing an Ostrich egg which does resemble an Oblate Spheroid and NOT Prolate Spheroid. More over technical labeling is irrelevant since these are invented modern names that we ascribe to the earth. How would it make sense for God to describe the earth as an ‘Oblate spheroid’ 1400 years ago? Even if God were to describe the Earth as simply ’round’ it would be incorrect. Describing the Earth as resembling an ostrich egg is very significant and precise as it was not only unique at the time but is still accurate and visually relevant

    Thus its not just a case of bad translation, the words in arabic have multiple meanings and all cant be used at once however deeper analysis do show that all the meanings are accurate. This however is not likely to convince the non muslim who most probably thinks the muslims are stretching it abit and using words they want to use, which is their choice and is fair enough. But to say the verses are irrelevant is incorrect, they certainly have some merit

    • you don’t seem to understand arabic very well do you
      carpet in arabic is very specific in arabic it’s “bisata” and it functions as a bisat because it stretches it’s corners to make a flat earth

      dahaha means to make something completely flat , when an ostrich hit the ground with it’s legs it makes a flat surface like a pizza

      it’s the opposite the quran never at all mentions that the earth is round

      there is ofcourse a claim that the quran says that day wraps night and night wraps day
      so let’s check this claim and i want you to focus :
      imagine a room where you have two part’s of the room , the first part of the room you have the light switched off , the second part of the room has the light switched on
      and you have half a ball in the lit room and half in the dark room and according to science this ball rotates(this is exactly how the daily movement works)
      conclusion : the lit room(day) never shines on the dark room(night) and the dark room never hides the lit room(WTF)
      how can night wrap the earth

      a final blow that the earth is flat in quran:
      we say your face turning to the sky(for prayer) , so turn thy face to face the masjid wherever you are
      this is not possible except by a flat earth

      and look at how the earth was flattened :?????
      how do you flatten a sphere and why would you use this word if you are god , does god want to deceive us?
      flattened is a verb and btw it’s not talking about terrain so forget about that because the earth’s terrain is not flat
      it’s actually talking about how the earth is stretching as a flat disk

      the quran wouldn’t mention the earth is flat because it’s poetry , it always does that , it won’t mention the earth is flat because it’s obvious so he likened it to a carpet
      and btw poetry before islam(pre islamic period of ignorance) never said that the earth is flat they just likened it to things that are flat
      even daha al ard(earth) was used before islam in poetry so you have no position here and you will keep denying how the quran likened the earth to a flat disk because you are afraid

      • The Quran also calls earth a container, containers can’t be flat.
        I cant follow your logic at all man. If it says day wraps night while night wraps day simultaneously, doesnt that represent reality that earth is always consumed by both at the same time? Because its round?
        A picture of the earth from space will show a
        You an earth wrapped in light and half dark.. and add movement of time and rotation tothe image…. its like a snake eating its tail the light wraps around the dark while dark wraps around light as it rotates….
        As though dark is chasing light and light chasing dark on opposite ends. Makes sense to me.
        And ive never heard dahaha used to reference an ostrich making a flat surface…ever.
        To be a honest, from a literary standpoint uf i amuse you and pretend it means flattening as you say, flattening the Earth could also mean that in the earth’s formation in prehistory when everything was mountainous lava and Jagged Earth filled with noxious gases and crazy amounts of boiling water and mointains (uninhabitable landscape) God flattened and made it habitable in terms of the actual surface area not the shape of planet itself.. so man idk.. you said poetry *shrug *

        • The wrapping of day and night happens in the sky not on the flat earth or sphere earth. Also the word dahaha is an action not a noun. People can translate it as ostrich egg if they want, but in classical arabic it means to make the earth comfortable to walk on and lay on just like the Ostrich prepares the ground to lay the eggs to be in a comfortable environment

  32. Mr. Dave, the author of this article seems to be a carpet seller promoting his carpet business here. There’s a proper word for the carpet in Arabic. And Arabs very well know that word too, since carpets are mfd/imported and sold in Arab lands more than anywhere in the world.
    Nowhere, the planet earth is described with the word “Carpet” in the Holy Quran.

    Please bear in mind that Qur’an is the book of “Signs” and not “Science”, which invites to contemplate, ruminate and think, otherwise there wouldn’t have been a single non Muslim.
    Now, coming to the main point:
    spherical earth is described in the Holy Qur’an around 15 centuries ago in several verses, but to cite a few refer to:
    [Quran 39.5] [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps [Yukawwar in Arabic يُكَوِّرُ] the night over the day and overlaps [Yukawwar يُكَوِّرُ] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. ALL MOVE (Kullon Yajree كل يجري) to a prerecorded destiny. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?

    The word Yukawwar in Arabic is derived from Kurra, which clearly means sphere or ball. Arab’s only favorite sport Football in Arabic is called as “Kurrat-ul-qadam” ( کرةالقدم). Not just this, but the description of overlapping of the day after night and night after day proves the spherical shape and it’s rotation too. Otherwise, instead of overlapping a sudden day and sudden night would’ve happened, had the earth’s surface been flat.

    In fact Kullon Yajree (كل يجري) “all moving”, too describes a continuous motion which the science has discovered too lately. Otherwise, first scientists believed earth stable and all other planets moving/revolving around it including sun. Then they make a complete “U” turn and claimed that, the sun is stable and other planets rotate around it, that means in a fixed set. But now scientists claim that however, planets rotate around the sun but the sun too is not stable and moving along with its rotational group of planets towards unknown destination in the universe. Later they claimed every thing in the universe is rotating around a fixed orbit and set, but all these sets are continuously moving and expanding away from the base, the location where occurred the Big Bang.

    Few other related verses below:

    [Quran 55,33] O company of Jinn and man, escape the diameters (Aktar in Arabic اقطار) of the Heavens and the Earth if you can, You won’t escape without authority.

    [Quran 7.54] And your Lord, Allah, who created the Heavens and the Earth in six days and then settled on the Throne. [Allah] Covers the night with the day, asks for it persistently; and the sun and the moon and the stars enslaved by His orders. Is this not His creation and His command? Blessed be Allah the Lord of all the worlds.

    and

    [Quran 50.7] And the earth We have spread it out (والارض مددناها), and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely pairs (of plants).

    • you don’t seem to understand arabic very well do you
      carpet in arabic is very specific in arabic it’s “bisata” and it functions as a bisat because it stretches it’s corners to make a flat earth

      dahaha means to make something completely flat , when an ostrich hit the ground with it’s legs it makes a flat surface like a pizza

      it’s the opposite the quran never at all mentions that the earth is round

      there is ofcourse a claim that the quran says that day wraps night and night wraps day
      so let’s check this claim and i want you to focus :
      imagine a room where you have two part’s of the room , the first part of the room you have the light switched off , the second part of the room has the light switched on
      and you have half a ball in the lit room and half in the dark room and according to science this ball rotates(this is exactly how the daily movement works)
      conclusion : the lit room(day) never shines on the dark room(night) and the dark room never hides the lit room(WTF)
      how can night wrap the earth , the sun moves in circles so it wraps around around earth that doesn’t mean it’s a sphere in quran , yokawir means increases and not wraps because you are not talking about turban

      a final blow that the earth is flat in quran:
      we say your face turning to the sky(for prayer) , so turn thy face to face the masjid wherever you are
      this is not possible except by a flat earth

      and look at how the earth was flattened :?????
      how do you flatten a sphere and why would you use this word if you are god , does god want to deceive us?
      flattened is a verb and btw it’s not talking about terrain so forget about that because the earth’s terrain is not flat
      it’s actually talking about how the earth is stretching as a flat disk

      the quran wouldn’t mention the earth is flat because it’s poetry , it always does that , it won’t mention the earth is flat because it’s obvious so he likened it to a carpet
      and btw poetry before islam(pre islamic period of ignorance) never said that the earth is flat they just likened it to things that are flat
      even daha al ard(earth) was used before islam in poetry so you have no position here and you will keep denying how the quran likened the earth to a flat disk because you are afraid

    • You would be crazy to think that i’ll be damned for eternity for a book that creates these kinds of problems , the book should be clear but it’s not
      it’s only one verse that you say it describes the shape of the earth but it doesn’t even describe the shape of the earth and we have a lot of verses that describe a flat earth , this book is an insult to a person’s intellectual mind, it never helps determine what it wants but when science says something they try to fit the quran with known science and it doesn’t help a single
      person , it just make them muslims feel cozy when they fall a sleep because the quran is “right” and that those muslims are going to heaven and everyone else will be damned in hell for eternity .

  33. By the name of Allah the Merciful, all praise is for Allah the best of creators. (This is how Muhammad peace be upon him used to open his speeches)

    Thanks for the people of the website for leaving us a place to comment. I am Muslim and I ask Allah to guide many people with what im saying. This is what I sent to my Christian friend regarding flat Earth, please read to the end:

    -First off I give you the verses followed by the commentary:
    The perfect Qur’an:
    “Do they not look at the Camels, how they are made? [17] And at the sky, how it is raised? [18] And at the Mountains, how they are fixed firm? [19] And at the Earth, how it is spread out? [20] Therefore do thou give admonition, for thou art one to admonish. [21]Thou art not one to manage (men’s) affairs. [22]”

    The idea that earth is flat is an error from the bible translators, Hebrew is a complex language that cannot be translated literally like English, it’s a language of poetry like Arabic. Remember what I told you that day? These are clearly verses that show the marvel of creation to the atheists, there is nothing marvelous in earth being flat, except if it’s a ball in reality, it is indeed marvelous how a ball is flat and people at the bottom don’t fall, and how the camels were created, and how the sky (galaxies are raised without pillars, and the mountains are a marvel if you look at them.

    -And now going the to verses that show that the Earth is round in the Qur’an, and listen to me atheists, Imagine if Muhammad peace be upon him told us 1,400 years ago that earth is round.. How do you think their reaction will be like? They would certainly say he is a mad man, it has to be in hints for the next generation to come, we can bare this knowledge.

    “He created the heavens and earth for a true purpose; He wraps the night around [yukawwir] the day and the day around the night”

    The Noble Qur’an, [az-Zumar 39:5].

    The word yukawwir (wraps around) is the same word that is used to describe the act of wrapping a turban around the head and that is the metaphor which was used in the commentary of Aljalalein. It is well-known that night and day follow one another on earth, which implies that the Earth is round.

  34. QUOTE:
    “Humm, the cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.
    So has anybody seen a spherically shaped area that has had a carpet rolled out on it … ever?”

    Yes, the Earth

    Typical Atheist shill

    • You’ll have to choose between what scientists claim and what the Quran claims. That is why the Quran is called the Furqan (the divider, the splitter). Peace and good luck

  35. This is really ridiculous and disgusting to justify an unreasonable narrative. So a carpet can’t be spiral or spread on a circular structure? And is he saying mountain are not found on a slope or slide surface?

  36. To al the atheist. Prove us the earth is a ball or egg shaped. There is now a large group flat earthers and we are still growing in numbers. The earth is not a ball ! All pictures of earth are images made on a computer. No picture of earth what so ever only fake drawings from NASA.
    We have prove that no man ever went to space or the moon. Dear muslims. You know Alkah says in quran there is a ceiling over the earth and no one can pass that protective ceiling! These atheists take fake pictures of non extistend space and faked moon landings to trow dirt in your eyes and say quran is false. Quran is right. Earth is flat and the sun and the moon are Verry close and Smal orbiting a flat earth in circles. We as muslims stand firm in this belief and in Alkah we put or trust.

    • Ibrahim, you cannot tell an atheist the earth is flat
      , they need to desperately cling on to the spinning ball of lies, even when they find out the truth they will deny, no hope for them.

    • @Ibrahim. The Quraan says no such things. Leave the answering and commentary of the Quraan to the eminent scholars. If you can’t even realise that flat earth makes NO SENSE whatsoever and every possible scientific explanation WITHOUT the need of NASA clearly shows the earth is a sphere then how are you capable of understanding the Quraan which is not in the spoken Arabic but a grammatically advanced Arabic where every word makes a difference. The fact that the words this atheist filth is trying distort doesn’t once say FLAT yet he’s desperately trying to make it out so should be sufficient for any reader to realise he’s the actual straw-man in the entire article above. I will post a link soon that answers everything above. Don’t fall for flat earth BS and don’t fall for atheist BS.. they’re both are deprived of understanding as each other.

      • The Quran and bible claim earth is flat. If you are not made of understanding then your not.

        You need to read yourself the books. Not depend on a scholar… many are against each other and you favor them over your own understanding?

        Read it yourself. It’s flat

        NASA is a joke. The laugh is on you all that think it’s a spinning ball with water on it.

        • No doubt Bible translations in English say the earth is flat, but Qur’an don’t, as I’ve explained in detail in my somewhere above post.

          Bible says that Earth is a 2 dimensional flat disk and the heaven is like a canopy: Isaiah 40:22. And since Earth is flat then Jesus could see the entire Earth from a single high location Matthew 4:8)

          • Explain please what “structure” means.. and “ceiling” as God describes the sky with these.. or a “canopy” or a “container”… The God of the Torah and Quran are the same one. Both books confirm earth has a structure as a sky.

      • If you keep depending on scholars rather than your own intellect (by reading the Quran many times, with the purpose of being guided) then you will go astray. Quran wants you to think for yourself it doesn’t want you to believe anything scientists and scholars say, as the book itself claims it is those people who make their followers go astray

    • Ibraheem don’t be stupid..
      God told us in the Quran:
      Say, “With Allah is the far-reaching argument. If He had willed, He would have guided you all.”
      And also “There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the right path has become distinct from the wrong path.”

      God sent us the 100% truth, you just have to find it, don’t go contradicting logic in the Name of Islam; if you don’t have the convincing logic, go learn first instead of saying nonsense.
      Allah didn’t leave us with without logic, you just have to learn first.

    • Ibrahim,
      If you’ve little kernel in the cranium, wakeup in the early morning well before the sun rises and observe sunrise from an elevated place little out side your town in the fields. See how gradually light spreads quite prior to sunrise and then the sun appears about more than an hour later from the horizon. If you couldn’t discern the process go repeatedly until you could understand.
      The same process you could observe in reverse order during evening at sunset in to the horizon from the same place. But preferably sunrise is more descriptive and understandable than sunset.
      That proves, earth is not a flat surface. Had it been flat, instead of all this process you would witness sudden appearance and sudden disappearance of the sun. Sudden dark to sudden light in the morning and vise versa in the night.

    • Interesting – so you believe the Earth is flat because the Qu’ran tells you so. And yet all your bothers here are claiming the Qu’ran does not say so.

  37. First of all, Allah’s earth definition is different from science’s earth definition. Allah is talking about ground or land that we walk on, sleep on etc while science is talking about planet like moon,sun,star etc. secondly, the word “spread out” does not means flat but rather it means wide open, spacious, and the word “bed” also does not refers to flat but something you walk on, sleep on, build on etc. For instance, does river’s bed means something flat so, you don’t have point.

    • You didnt read his article well enough. It clearly explains why it applies to the whole earth and not just to local area.

  38. First of all, Allah’s earth definition is different from science’s earth definition. Allah is talking about ground or land that we walk on, sleep on etc while science is talking about planet like moon,sun,star etc. secondly, the word “spread out” does not means flat but rather it means wide open, spacious, and the word “bed” also does not refers to flat but something you walk on, sleep on, build on etc. For instance, does river’s bed means something flat so, you have point.

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