Knowing how “tolerant” Islam can be at the very best of times, I guess in many ways I expected it would come at some point, but in the end the crime I was booted out of the public Facebook forum was for “talking” about it in another Facebook group. Yes indeed, I can hear you gasp in awe at the truly hideous nature of my crime. OK, so what the story here?
There exists a group called, “Atheism Debunked by Bangladeshi Muslims“. (Warning the house rules read like war and peace … very long). Oh, come on now, the very arrogance of the name itself just begs for a bit of attention. They have been running since July and claim to be the fastest growing group with 4700 members. I did point out that when Stephen Colbert started a group, he managed 1,000,000 in a week, so the term “fastest” was a tad exaggerated. The admin replied and advised that for its type, it was the fastest. OK, so yes, for groups of Bangladeshi Muslims attempting to debunk Atheism, yep its the fastest and biggest, but also the smallest and slowest as well.
What you find in there, can at the best of times be truly silly. So what else did you expect, reasoned debate perhaps? Nope, not a chance. I blogged about some of the silliness both here, and also here. One commenter also reminded me of some other howlers that I missed …
don’t forget these gems –
(On the obvious fact that Jinns exist)
“I think you guys thinkings are sticked with the lamp of aladin. Make it free And think.”
(On sex during menstruation)
“Secondly at that time higher risk for pregnancy is also available. so it infects her with cervical cancer”
(This one from an armchair cosmologist)
“THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS BLACK HOLE, IF SOMEONE GONNA DESTROY THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IT IS GOING TO BE HUMAN HIMSELF.”
And last but not least, the stunningly brilliant
“Science is 1000 years old.”
[Hat tip to Rustin Steele for those]
In the end the statistics are something like this:
- Amount of atheism actually debunked – zero, nada, none
- Amount of truly silly claims presented with zero evidence – way too many to even begin to start counting
OK, so why did they boot me out? First a bit of history. As you might imagine, there are indeed times when folks lose their rag and abuse flies, and when that happens, if it’s a Muslim, the admin turns a blind eye to it, yet if it’s an Atheist, they get booted out. It is quite common for Muslims to revert to “You are a stupid dick head” or similar when you point out their lack of evidence in any debate. If you complain to the administrator, his response is to make the culprit an administrator as well!!!. So in that context, this appeared from the primary Administrator Mufassil Islam
WHAT DOES THIS GROUP MEAN TO ME? NOTHING! YET A LOT!
I STARTED THIS GROUP ALMOST SIX WEEKS AGO!
I HAD TO PROVE A FEW THINGS! ALHAMDULILLAH! I DID!
EVERY DEVOUT MUSLIM WILL BE GIVEN THE KEYS TO THE ENGINEERING ROOM OF THIS HOUSE!
THEY ARE MUZAHIDS!
SHOULD I MAKE ANY NON-MUSLIM ITS ADMIN? NO!
ISLAM DOES NOT ALLOW ME TO MAKE ANY NON-MUSLIM MY TRUE SPIRITUAL FRIEND!
(Yep, his caps lock key is apparently stuck). I pasted a copy of that into “Atheist Bangladesh” commenting that “the lunatics have been given the keys to the asylum“.It was spotted, and Muffasil demands, “U HAVE 5 MINUTES TO DELETE MY POST FROM THE OTEHR ROON=M OR U WILL BE BANNED”. To which I replied, “I don’t bow to tyrants“, and so he banned me.
Now that perhaps says it all. It’s a public forum, yet when I dare to post some nonsense to another forum, the Islamic mind cannot cope. Personally, I not too bothered about that, he is simply embarrassed and so banned me for making such nonsense a bit more public, I get that. It is also his group so he can do what he likes, I get that as well. No, instead what really is quite disturbing here is that he publicly declared himself to be incapable of treating all humans equally because of his beliefs. It revealed a view in which there are “Muslims” who can be trusted and everybody else who cannot. This is truly disturbing, because it says oh so much about what is wrong with Islam and belief in general.